(THIS IS A PCVR AND QUEST PIRACY GUIDE) submitted by imlife1102 to QuestPiracy [link] [comments] So you wanna sail the seven seas of virtual reality? Last Edited: 15/01/2021 ^ I think i've accomplished this mission now :] This guide shows you how to download and sideload pirated games on the Oculus Quest 1/Q2 as well as the best place to find pirated games for PCVR headsets or Quests connected through Oculus Link or any other wireless streaming solution. Just to reiterate and stress this, DO NOT PUBLICLY POST LINKS TO PIRACY DOWNLOADS. BY DOING THIS YOU ARE RISKING THE SUBREDDIT AND ENTIRE PIRACY MIRRORS TO BE DELETED. I'm thankfully able to circumvent these rules by not providing *direct* links to downloads, but just pointing people to where they can access these downloads by themselves :) I am not affiliated with any of the hosts of these links. Just someone in the community who knows the ins and outs trying to point noobies in the right direction and to (hopefully) slow down the subreddit becoming nothing but a cesspit of people asking the same question over and over. This also means don't come to me for help, I don't run any of this stuff. Either leave your problem in the comments for help or ask the Discord. AND I DO NOT ANSWER DIRECT MESSAGES QUEST 2 USERS: Not all Quest 1 games currently work with the Quest 2, please take a look at this spreadsheet before installing any games. if you're here looking for a cracked version of Virtual Desktop, there isn't one. VD is uncrackable as far as I know. If you want a PCVR streamer for Quest, here is a free alternative. WILL I BE BANNED FOR PIRATING GAMES? As it stands right now, you won't be banned for pirating games. As of right now, Facebook has never issued any form of punishment to anyone for piracy. If you feel weary when it comes to pirating games, you can take some precautions just to be safe. "LVL 0: Do nothing, play cracked games online and offline LVL 1: Play cracked games only when your wifi is turned off (still not safer since oculus sends logs) LVL 2: Spoof games as random packagenames and only play with wifi off (safer, but still not 100% safe) LVL 3: Play with wifi on but block all oculus and facebook domains through pihole or your router (even safer, still SOME game developers will see your ip trying to connect to their servers, using a fake dns does work) LVL 4: Block quest external access to internet from your routepihole (only allowing stuff vd and file transfer between devices on LAN)" - Zale Anderson, VRP Discord PLEASE READ THIS GUIDE CAREFULLY TO NOT MAKE ANY MISTAKES Also, if you're manually sideloading, DON'T USE SIDEQUEST. THEY HAVE AN APK BLACKLIST AND WILL NOT LET YOU SIDELOAD PIRATED GAMES. YOU CAN USE AN OLDER VERSION OF SIDEQUEST TO SIDELOAD BLACKLISTED APKS THAT CAN BE OBTAINED THROUGH RCLONE BROWSER, WHICH IS MENTIONED LATER IN THIS GUIDE YOU WILL NEED: Oculus ADB Drivers An Oculus developer account with the Quest in developer mode (Tutorial) EDIT: I've heard about recently that you now need a Credit Card to get a developer account for verification purposes. I don't know any way around this so I apologise if you can't make a developer account for this. A Telegram Account (requires phone number, if you don't have one that's on you) EDIT: you can use various websites that provide free phone numbers online, namely TextNow (US only but VPNs work) and FreePhoneNum. thanks to u/FlowV4 on this post for reminding me that these apps existed lol Any device capable of sideloading to an Oculus Quest/Quest 2 (this guide will be directed to Windows 10 users as that's the main use case here, if you use something else then I think there are downloads on the Telegram for other operating systems. Keep reading to know how to get to the Telegram) A USB Type C cable routing from your PC to the quest (to sideload games to the headset) A Discord Account (NOT A BRAND NEW ACCOUNT: using a new account will get you instantly banned from the VRP Discord. This is a measure to prevent raiding/bots. I do not know how old your account has to be to join and I apologise for being unable to figure it out. I'd give it 14-30 days maybe.) Step 1: Join the VRP Discord server. The invite link is a PINNED POST on this subreddit. When in the Discord server, head over to the #rules channel, read the rules and react to the bottom message to gain access to the rest of the server you may use the #vrp-updates channel in the server to be notified when new games are added or games are updated on the download mirrors. Step 2: Go to the #faq channel, scroll to the top and JOIN THE TELEGRAM (Telegram link is underneath " How to sideload with AndroidSideloader: " section. You'll have to download the Telegram application on your PC and make an account to get into the VRP Telegram. Step 3: If you needed to download Telegram, revisit the Telegram link in the VRP Discord and using your account you just made/logged into, join the VRP Telegram chat. At the top of the Telegram interface you should be able to access the pinned message. So at this point there are multiple methods here for quest piracy. I'm going to go through them here. ROOKIE'S SIDELOADER VRP EDITION (AUTOMATIC SIDELOADING, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED FOR NOOBIES) On the Telegram's pinned message is an exe file for the Rookie's Sideloader VRP Edition installer. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND USING THIS TO PIRATE GAMES. It's a simple application that when downloaded and installed (IF WINDOWS/YOUR BROWSER SAYS IT'S A VIRUS, THIS IS A FALSE POSITIVE AND MEANS YOU NEED TO UPDATE YOUR VIRUS DATABASES TO STOP IT FROM APPEARING OR JUST ADD IT TO YOUR EXCEPTIONS.) and when launched, you can connect your quest to your PC, Select from a huge drop down menu of games and easily, with a couple of clicks, automagically download and sideload games to your quest. If you get Rookie's Sideloader VRP and are prompted with an update on launch, accept the update and it'll be downloaded and launched on your PC. Games on the list are automatically added and updated at the rate they're cracked by the pirates. RCLONE BROWSER (MANUAL SIDELOADING, RECOMMENDED IF USING ANY OTHER SIDELOADING METHOD, ALSO FOR PCVGEARVR GAMES) On the pinned messages list, find the rclone browser part and click the link corresponding to the operating system you're on and (for Windows) you'll be redirected to a message containing a RAR file. Download that file, extract it and run RcloneBrowser.exe. You'll then be presented with 2 or 3 VRP mirrors, double click one of them and you'll be able to access and download APKs and OBBs under the Quest Games folder for manual sideloading, if thats your thing. If the UI for rclone browser is confusing to you, refer to this short tutorial video. (when the game you chose is showing as running, wait until it says finished before sideloading) WHITE WHIDOW SIDELOADER - NEWER, PRE-ALPHA ALTERNATIVE TO ROOKIE'S FOR MAC, LINUX AND WINDOWS all info regarding WWS can be found here. includes download and installation guide EXTRA, LIKELY NECESSARY INFORMATION To manually sideload, use sidequest or rookies sideloader to access the quests file system and drag the "com.xxx.xxx" folder to the directory Android/obb then sideload the apk using the sideloading method of your choice. Not all games need obb files so they won't come with them. To access sideloaded applications, go to your Quest's library screen, on the top right select the drop down menu that says "All", scroll down and select Unknown Sources. From there you can access your sideloaded games and apps UPDATING QUEST GAMES To update your pirated Quest games, while keeping the current version of the game installed, download and sideload the new version of the game using your preferred method and your save data should stay intact with the new update installed OTHER rclone browser also provides downloads for other tools and options regarding your Quest and games. This includes: App launchers spoofed as legit apps that can be launched from your regular library screen, eliminating the need to go to unknown sources Method(s) to disable Telemetry tracking Alternate sideloading methods such as older versions of sidequest that allow blacklisted apks, total commander for local sideloading and rookies sideloader vrp edition. All the old Quest firmware versions and methods to downgrade Previous versions of games DLC for games Modded/maxed out save files for games GEARVR AND PC TETHERED VR Rclone browser also provides downloads for GearVR and PCVR games. The GearVR games should sideload fine onto a Quest but there is no guarantee that they will fully function. However I don't know how to play GearVR games on a PC using a PCVR headset THE PCVR GAMES ARE TO BE DOWNLOADED AND PLAYED ON A PC WITH A PCVR TETHERED HEADSET OR A QUEST CONNECTED TO A PC WITH OCULUS LINK/VIRTUAL DESKTOP/ALVR. YOU CANNOT SIDELOAD PCVR GAMES ONTO A QUEST 1 OR 2 AND PLAY THEM STANDALONE. To play pirated PCVR games, download one using any of the rclone mirrors. Some may be packaged into repacked installers to make downloads smaller, so follow any instructions that are (hopefully) provided alongside the repack files. PLAYING WITH STEAMVR In my experience, the easiest way to run these games is through SteamVR, being only a Quest owner i've found running games through the Oculus PC app with Link very unreliable due to their software just being a MASSIVE processing power hog so only use Oculus Link if you have no other way or you think your PC is beefy enough for it. More on this a little bit down the line. So, if you're on an Oculus headset (Quest with Link^, Rift) enable unknown sources in the settings for the Oculus PC software so you can run SteamVR. Find the executable (.exe) for the game you've just downloaded and installed/extracted (you may have to look around in the game directory depending on what game) and add it as a Non-Steam game shortcut within Steam. Then go to properties for the shortcut you have just created within Steam and enable "Include in VR Library" Then when running SteamVR on launch you'll be presented with your VR library where your shortcuts should appear and you can just launch the games from there and enjoy. ^If you do Quest PCVR exclusively on Virtual Desktop, you do not need the Oculus software at all (correct me if i'm wrong) POSSIBLE SETUP IMPROVEMENTS (IN MY EXPERIENCE) Here i'm just gonna dump a few things that have enhanced my PCVR experience on a Quest over time in hopes that it'll help out others. I play games on a budget ass rig (i5-4590s, 8gb ram, gtx 1650) so running the Oculus app and playing with Oculus Link is a MASSIVE MASSIVE hit on performance in games. So if you're able to, use Virtual Desktop instead of Oculus Link as long as you've got a nice connection (preferrably ethernet) and at the cost of a bit of pixelation in display or some higher latency, you will run games WAAAY smoother. I am incredibly below spec for Half-Life: Alyx but by running it with Virtual Desktop and not the Oculus app bloating up my CPU power it sat at more than playable fps (50-72fps) for me at all times on low fidelity. Along with that, close anything else you have running in the background like any web browser or Discord. Sure VD is $25/£20, but its worth it not only for the experience improvements but for supporting the developer because this guy is doing a better job than Facebook when it comes to this stuff. This post will be updated for general improvements (i suck at writing guides) and if any changes come along to the process. I hope this helps those who want to try before they buy or the many clueless people who just want free games on their shiny new VR headsets. But remember, please support developers and their work by buying their games on legit marketplaces, maybe wait for a sale or something and buy their games if you enjoy them. They absolutely slave away to bring us these incredible experiences and we are responsible for making sure they can afford a tin of sardines to ration for the week and maybe buy more models off the asset store for their next game I know this is coming from the redditor who just taught you how to pirate every single VR game but i still like to support developers by buying their games if i enjoy them and it goes way further than you think when you buy a game. Except for Bethesda and Rockstar, please pirate their games to your hearts content as they are shitty companies releasing low effort VR ports for a quick buck from the small but growing amount of VR enthusiasts and gamers. Thanks for reading and enjoy! |
Magia record only checks for login at certain times (ex. before and after battles, before a story plays, and when changing to a different "part" of the game). This means you can can play magia record offline in between these check ins. Theoretically, if you can save the state of the game in between these checkins, then load them at a later time, you can continue playing as if you never left and once you get to the part that requires another check in, you load the save state of the game after said check in and continue playing that part.
Before you begin: Make sure you have the hard drive space (expect 100 GB) and make sure hardware virtualization is enabled in the bios (some computers have it disabled by default) and you have at minimum
4GB+ RAM (8GB recommended)
AMD K10 / Intel Nehalem CPU or newer (Ryzen 3600 / i5 8600k recommended)
Key:
Red text is changing settings
Purple text is navigation
Green text is confirming changes
Blue text is commands
Download and install virtualbox 6.0.24 from: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds_6_0 (Be sure to choose the correct installer. If you are using windows, click "windows hosts" etc)
Optional: Create a folder called "VMs" somewhere, I would recommend creating it in a spare hard drive as this can take a lot of storage.
Download and run windows 10 media creation tool: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
Select "Create installation media", Click next
Uncheck "Use the recommended options for this PC" then select "32 bit" from the Architecture drop down menu. Click next.
Select "ISO file" bubble. Click next and select a location where you want to temporally save it (You can delete this ISO along with the creation tool at the end)
Click finish once done (don't select burn disk).
Open virtualbox and create a VM by clicking the icon labeled "New"
Enter a name (can be anything)
Under "Type" select "Microsoft Windows"
Under "Version" scroll down and select "Windows 10 (32-bit)"
Optional: under "Machine Folder" open the drop down menu, click the folder labeled "other" then point it to your "VMs" folder (This is where all the snapshots will be stored).
Click next
Give it 3GB ram (set slider to 3000 MB) and click next
Make sure "Create a virtual hard disk now" is selected then click Create
Make sure "VDI (VirtualBox Disk Image)" is selected then click Next.
Select the "Fixed size" then click Next.
Move the slider to 20 GB then click create. (Optional: you can select where the VDI is stored. I recommend saving to the VMs folder)
In virtualbox manager (should already be opened) select (single click) the VM you created in the left column (should be highlighted blue once selected) and click the gear icon labeled "settings"
Click on the "System" tab in the left column
Under "boot order" uncheck "floppy".
Under "Chipset" select "ICH9".
Under "Pointing Device" select "PS/2 Mouse"
Click on the "Processor" tab on the top ribbon
Under "Extended features" check both "Enable PAE/NX" and "Enable Nested VT-x/AMD-V"
Move the "Processor(s)" slider all the way to the right (or half way CPU is hyperthreaded)
Click on the "Processor" tab on the top ribbon
Under "Paravirtualization Interface" select "Hyper-V"
Under "Hardware Virtualization" make sure both "Enable VT-x/AMD-V" and "Enable Nested Paging" is selected.
Click on the "Storage" tab in the left column
Under "Storage Devices" Select the CD Icon that is labeled "empty".
Under "Attributes" Click on the CD icon with the arrow and select "Choose an optical disk file..."
Navigate to where you saved the windows ISO file and select it, then click "open" (Once done, the CD should now be labeled "Windows.iso" or whatever you decided to name that file)
Click "OK"
Disable the internet connection from your computer (to avoid signing into microsoft)
In virtualbox manager click the green right arrow labeled "start"
When installing windows 10 under the "Activate Windows" prompt click "I don't have a product key" to the left of the Next button
Select windows 10 Home then click next
Check the "I accept the licence terms" then click next
Click on Custom
Select the 20GB drive (should only be one) then click next
Let windows setup do its thing and once you are at the Cortana screen, select your language and keyboard preference and select "I dont have the internet" at the bottom left
On the next screen select "Continue with limited setup"
Do all the username, password, and security question setup.
Once you get to the "Choose privacy settings for your device" screen untoggle all the options, click accept.
On the "Do more across devices with activity history" screen, click "No"
On the "Cortana help you get things done" screen, click "Not now"
Once windows is finally installed and you are at the desktop, reconnect to the internet and restart the VM (press left ctrl to regain control of your mouse and click on the "X" on the top left of the VM window and select "Power off the machine" then click the green start arrow to power on the VM).
Both the Host and the VM windows 10 should now have internet connection.
In the windows search bar type in "Performance" and select "Adjust the appearance and performance of Windows" Select adjust for best performance then apply.
In the windows search bar type in "Power & Sleep" and open "Power and sleep settings".
Move the slider to "Best performance"
Scroll down and select "Additional power settings"
Click "Show additional plans" then select high performance
To the left of high performance, click "Edit plan settings"
Under "Turn off the display" choose "Never"
Then click "Change advanced power settings"
Under Hard disk type in "6000" for the "turn off hard disk after" option. Hit apply. (I recommend you do the same on your host computer running the VM)
Open edge (the browser) and type in "windows 10 debloater" and go to this page: www.github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater (or type in the link manually, its up to you)
Click the green button titled "Code" then click "Download ZIP". (click save if edge prompts you to)
Search "Memu emulator" and go to www.memuplay.com click the download button. (click save if edge prompts you to)
Run the installer and click "decline" for mcafee.
Open "Multi-MEmu" from the desktop and you should see an android 7.1 emulator. Delete it using the trash icon.
On the bottom left, click "New" and select android 4.4
Click the gear icon for the android emulator.
Under performance click Customize and enter the number for "CPU" to half the number of your physical cpu core (3 works for me) then set the amount of ram to 1024MB.
Toggle "GPU memory optimization" to on.
Under display set resolution to 1024x768 (Optional)
Click ok once done.
Exit Memu.
Extract the debloater zip file to the C drive. (Double click and copy paste "Windows10Debloater-master" folder to the C drive) then rename this folder to "debloat".
Type in "Windows PowerShell" in to the windows search bar, right click on powershell and click "run as administrator"
Enter in the command: Set-ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted -Force
Enter in the command: cd c:\debloat
Enter in the command: .\Windows10DebloaterGUI.ps1
Once prompted type in "r" to run once
The Debloater window should now pop up.
Click "Remove all bloatware" and wait for it to finish.
Under optional changes/fixes click "disable cortana" followed by "StopEdgePDFTakeover, "Uninstall OneDrive", "Unpin tiles from startmenu", "disable telemetry/tasks", "Remove bloatware regkeys" (Be sure to let one finish before running the others)
Restart windows
Open command prompt as administrator
Enter in the command: diskpart
Enter in the command: select disk 0
Enter in the command: select partition 3
Enter in the command: delete partition override
Open type in "disk management" in the search bar and select "Create and format hard disk partitions"
Right click the "C:" partition to the left of "System Reserved" and select "extend volume"
Click next, next, then finish.
Restart the VM
On the VM application window click on "Devices" then choose "Insert guest editions CD"
Open file manager then doubleclick on the CD Drive and install. Reboot when prompted.
On the VM application window click on "Devices" then mouse over "Optical drives" and click "Remove disk from virtual drive" to the right.
Open MEmu and start the android 4.4 emulator
Wait for all the bloatware emulator apps to finish downloading (A way to tell is when your cpu usage drops close to 0 in task manager, this takes a while. Restarting MEmu also helps)
Open the play store, sign in, uncheck "Backup data to your Google Account"
Wait some more for google play to finish updating (wait until cpu usage drops to close to 0)
Install magia record from google play normally then open it.
Click the bottom left button on magia record screen to transfer your data and wait to download. (Be sure to write down your ID and password incase the VM crashes and you need to reinstall)
The snapshot button is under the "Machine" tab in the VM window.
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I understand that people are always hesitant to answer this very specifically, but I'm always curious - given 7 million visitors, what your ballpark profit? And what's the ratio of the profit-to-expenses, which I assume is mostly server hosting costs as a one man operation? | Most of my profit comes from ads. I make around 5 cents for every hour someone spends in Photopea (on average). In 2019, people spent 5 million hours working in Photopea, so I made around $250,000. I hope it could be 2x to 4x more this year :) |
Photopea runs completely in your computer (after Photopea.com loads, you can disconnect from the internet and use it offline). I use only a file hosting, for which I pay around 50 USD a year. | |
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How is that possible to only pay 50 USD/year when you get ~7 million people in a month and your site is 1.8mb. That's around 12tb/month. I don't know of any host willing to do 12tb of data for $50/12 | I don't understand it either :/ I will ask my hosting provider. |
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Don’t! :) | I already did :) |
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I'm glad you have a subscription option. As a policy I don't turn my adblocker off, but I'll totally subscribe as your rates are quite reasonable! If you're around and don't mind answering, how many subscriptions do you have? | There are hundreds of people paying for Premium :) so about 0.01% of all users :) |
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How much do you think you're losing out because of adblockers? | It is hard to tell, maybe between 10 to 40 percent :/ |
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You should implement a donation feature as well, to offer more ways for users to support you. | People can already order a Premium. I think it is better to get something in return (removing ads), so anybody who wants to support us can do it :) |
First of all, thank you for making a great alternative. My question is, how would you compare Photopea to The Gimp in terms of features and interface? | The interface of Photopea is closer to Photoshop than GIMP (so it is more comfortable to Photoshop users). I think all you can do in GIMP you can do in Photopea, but with a different workflow. You can open GIMP files (XCF) in Photopea. |
There are many advanced features in Photopea, that are not in GIMP. The most important is probably the full support of a PSD format. | |
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Have to confess I'd never heard about this software until reading your post, but your mention of the PSD feature makes me want to check it out immediately. I admire your determination, dedication, and skills. | Thank you :) |
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Does it support vectors better than Photoshop? I don't like how limited it is in Photoshop. Even illustrator is annoying | Photopea can open SVG and PDF images better than Photoshop. Just try it! |
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Thank you for your program. I use it to make memes and do photoshopped things! | You are welcome! I am happy that Photopea is useful to you :) |
How did you learn how to make software? | I was interested in computers since I was 14. I was studying computer science at the university between 18 and 25 years of age. |
I studied theoretical computer science at the Charles university in Prague. Finishing the university was probably the hardest thing in my life (I do not enjoy learning as much as I enjoy creating stuff). But I also think it was the most valuable and productive part of my life and I am very proud of it :) | |
Here to say I've been using it, maybe the only white listed site on my ad-block. What was the hardest part to implement? | The advanced foreground selection was quite hard. It is used e.g. in MagicCut. I wanted to reach the quality of remove.bg (where you pay $2 per image), but it still does not work that well. |
Anyway, I think MagicCut works better than all other free tools and many commercial tools, so it can save you a lot of money :) | |
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You should look at U-2 Net https://github.com/NathanUA/U-2-Net a recently released paper with code that has amazing results | I know quite a lot about this research :) The problem is, that people use Photopea for free, so it would have to run on their computers. They would have to download a 200 MB network, and unless they don't have a $2000 GPU, they would have to wait for hours to do such foreground / background detection. |
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From the paper: "To facilitate the usage of our design in computation and memory constrained environments, we provide a small version of our U2-Net, called U2-Net† (4.7 MB). The U2-Net† achieves competitive results against most of the SOTA models (see Fig. 1) at 40 FPS." Unless there's something similar but better or they're outright lying, 4.7 MB sounds like an extremely reasonable memory footprint and it's pretrained so nobody's going to max out their GPU. You might want to give it another look. | Wow, that sounds great, I will put it into my issues: https://github.com/photopea/photopea/issues/2368 |
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Not 100% sure, but a GPU is needed to train the network (which can take hours) and the trained networks usually do things in seconds or even faster. Users would still need to download the network, but it wouldn't be very computationally expensive. | Such trained network can process the input in seconds on the GPU. If you process the input of the network on a CPU (even with multiple cores), it can take minutes or even hours. And training on a CPU can take weeks :) |
I use Photopea regularly when developing web sites. I don't have to fire up my VM or limit myself to GIMP or Krita. The third most popular tech magazine in the Czech Republic, Letem světem Applem, was developed with the help of your tool. Díky! My question: will you ever open-source Photopea, at least partially? | Hi, thanks a lot! |
A huge part of Photopea is open-sourced and available at https://github.com/photopea?tab=repositories | |
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I'm scared to even open that repo 😂. What hosting provider are you using that can handle 5 million users in a year? | I have a local hosting provider from the Czech Republic. It is just distributing HTML, CSS and JS files (no server-side computations like PHP or SQL databases), so it is not that hard. |
Hi! Two questions 1. Does photopea have support for RAW photo files of varying cameras? (.ARW for example) 2. Why do you think Adobe charges so much for their platform when your model is clearly fairly simple to produce (if one person can do it alone) and functions profitably? | Hi! Yes, Photopea can open .DNG, .CR2, .NEF and .ARW files :) |
There are programs that are much more expensive than Adobe products :) It is hard to tell, but I think it is because there are no reasonable alternatives, or the alternatives are not known very well. | |
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As a Fuji user, .RAF support coming at some point? | Hi, the .RAF format was invented by Fuji and has never been publicly described anywhere. I tried to ask Fuji to provide a description of their format, so that I can implement it into Photopea, but nobody replied :( |
I think Fuji does not want you to open their files in any other software than their software. | |
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I don't think fuji has their own editing software, most people use either Capture One or Lightroom, or Irident X-Transformer to convert into a DNG | Photopea can open DNG without any problems :) but it is a real pity they don't store it in DNG directly. |
I just discovered this software and it is bloody amazing. As a hobby animator, I'm wondering - Do you have any plans, or have you at least thought about, making an animation software in the same way you have achieved this? Something like Adobe Flash/Animate or Toon Boom Harmony. (I'm already sold on your idea for a video editor, since Davinci Resolve's free version has NEVER been able to render videos for me without crashing) There is a distinct lack of reasonably priced animation software that achieves nearly as much as these two ridiculously expensive subscription programs, without sacrificing something really important to animation. The closest thing to achieving what Animate or Harmony has is Blender's new 2d animate mode, and even then, you have to sacrifice convenient features like easy tweening. An alternative free (or one-purchase) animation software would make me - and so many other people happy. Now that I know this software exists, I'll be sure to donate to its production. | Thanks! You are not the first one asking for this :) I wish I could make so many tools, but I am afraid my life is too short for all that work :D |
If I manage to make a good team of programmers in the future, I would love to make such animation software. | |
Is there a comprehensive guide I can find for all the tools in photopea? I’m new to photo editing and still confused by the interface. | Photopea is an advanced editor and it is hard to learn simply by using it. I wrote a manual here: www.Photopea.com/learn . |
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You made documentation? What kind of unholy programmer from the abyss are you? Don’t let our bosses find out or we’re screwed. | I made it after several years of explaining people how to do things in emails, etc :) Now, I can simply send them links to my documentation. It took me less than a week :D |
I love using photopea! I open it almost daily. Is there a way to review the source and contribute pull requests? Have you thought about providing an offline or self-hosted release? | Thanks! The open-source parts of Photopea are published on our GitHub: https://github.com/photopea?tab=repositories . We provide a self-hosted versions for money, as it needs to be updated regularly. |
How would you compare it to photoshop? | Photopea has about 90% of features of Adobe Photoshop, but there are some features of Photopea that Photoshop doesn't have (e.g converting PDF, SVG, Sketch, XD, Figma to layered PSD documents). |
Also, only Photoshop and Photopea fully support the PSD format, so I think Photopea is the best alternative to Photoshop at the moment. | |
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What do you think about GIMP? | GIMP is great, but it can not work with PSD files properly. Also, the interface is quite different from Adobe Photoshop, and it is hard to use for former Photoshop users. |
https://www.facebook.com/photopea/photos/a.1703140446613703/2373211539606587/ | |
Do you pronounce it photo-pea, or photo-pee-ah? | I pronounce it Photo-pea, but most of people pronounce it photo-pee-ah. |
It is probably the most asked question in our subreddit :) /photopea. | |
EDIT: I did a quick search and here is what I found :) | |
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Good to know I got its pronunciation right :D I like photos and I like peas. What made you call it photopea? | I wanted it to be PhotoSomething, and I wanted a domain PhotoSomething.com . Most of domains were occupied, until I found Pea :) |
Not a question, but I just want to put this out there for all the non-developers, but the fact that Photopea was created by a single programmer is absolutely astounding. As a developer myself, I cannot fathom the productivity of this developer nor have I ever met someone that could be this productive. Teams of 10-20 developers could not match the functionality and feature list of photopea. And actually, here is a question after all, have you ever recorded or livestreamed yourself coding? I'm having a hard time imagining the pace required to be this productive. Do you have an estimate of the number of hours you have put into this? | Hi, thanks a lot! I think I put between 15 000 and 20 000 hours into Photopea :) I never recorded myself programming, but most of it is just staring into the wall thinking, opening Youtube or Reddit from time to time (to "relax" a bit), and I writing code once in a while :) |
Any chance your program can export files to work with a cnc machine? | Sure, just tell me what format does that machine accepts? Is than an open format? Can you use e.g. an SVG? |
Manufacturers often create their proprietary formats to make you dependent on their software. | |
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G-Code is pretty common, although I'm unsure as to what Z-axis information you would capture in an image format unless it was texturized somehow and interpreted that as topography? Maybe like the color coded images to show 3 dimensions in a planar view. I know lasewaterjet cutting and similar that do 2D operations typically ask me for a DXF file or equivalent. I've never used Photopea for this (or even tried) but typically I take a vector format and import into CAD software to generate a DXF for this purpose. I know my media guy can never get me a format I need to import a logo and such for mechanical design. A DXF or similar vector would be amazing if it doesn't exist already. | Hi, would you be able to write this into our GitHub? https://github.com/photopea/photopea/issues . And most importantly, would you be able to discuss it there with me, if I have any questions? I never worked with any CNC machine. |
Hi !! Can I know about your backend ? | There is a webhosting which stores one HTML, one CSS and several JS files. Photopea is written in Javascript and runs completely in a computer of the visitor. |
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Have you used any frontend frameworks? | No, I wrote my own Javascript, HTML and CSS. I usually prefer to use what I know, instead of learning how to use new tools :) |
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How do you handle users that pay for premium? There must be some sort of database right? | Yes, there is a database. I just wanted to say, that out of these 7 million people, the database is needed maybe for a hundred of them. |
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Are there any new browser features or HTML features that will make your code a lot simpler? | I would love if browsers let Photopea know, when Ctrl+T was pressed on the keyboard. People have been using the Ctrl+T shortcut in Adobe Photoshop for decades and almost every week, someone asks why it does not work in Photopea. |
At the moment, when you press Ctrl+T in any browser, it opens a new tab (panel), and a we can not do anything about it :( I have been personally arguing about it with browser developers for over five years. | |
"Fighting" with browser developers is quite a big part of my work, which is quite sad :( | |
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When in fullscreen Ctrl+T works in both Chrome and Edge, it triggers the transform tool. Maybe prompt the user to switch Photopea to fullscreen ? The website feels like a standalone app so it makes sense to get rid of the browser UI anyway. | I think the Ctrl+T should be usable even when not in the fullscreen mode. |
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I'm sure you must've researched this thoroughly over the years but maybe stackoverflow seems to have a couple good answers on disabling new tab shortcut keys. Maybe have a look? Esp these 2: 1 - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38442886/chrome-disable-ctrlt-shortcut - you could make your own extension and then make that extension do the "Free Transform"? 2 - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18625091/how-to-disable-firefox-new-tab-action-when-pressin-ctrl-and-clicking-a-link-wi I'm no good at js but maybe have a look... | I guess I could also just make my own web browser and ask users to install it :D |
How about a Desktop version? That'd be great! | You can go to Photopea.com and press More - Install Photopea. It will add an icon to your homescreen, which will start Photopea without the browser UI. But it works only in the latest Chrome, Edge and Opera. https://www.facebook.com/photopea/photos/a.1703140446613703/2120885974839146 |
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What Api does that? Seems chromium only but i wouldn't care. Never heard of that. | It is called PWA - progressive web apps, and the app can trigger the installing process https://medium.com/@dhormale/install-pwa-on-windows-desktop-via-google-chrome-browser-6907c01eebe4 |
What are your plans for the video editor, and how can I keep up to date on its progress? (video editor here that loves what you did with photopea) | I do not have any specific plans about the video editor yet. You can follow Photopea on Facebook or Twitter to know about the progress (links in my original post) :) |
You mentioned your income is through ads. Have you thought of other avenues for revenue sources or ways to increase your current revenue even more to be able to hire more employees? | Yes, I have thought about it, but I don't know about any ways, which could work better than ads. |
Most of the current Photopea user can not afford to pay for the software, so I don't want to make half of features available only after the payment. | |
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Would a premium version that's identical in features but without ads be an option? Unless this is already a thing? | It is already a thing :) You can hide ads for $10 for three months. Also, there is no subscription, you pay manually any time you want. Ads come back once it runs out :) |
What things does Photoshop do better than your alternative? | Photoshop can open almost all RAW image formats (in their Camera Raw program). I think Adobe pays the camera manufacturers, so that they allow Adobe to open raw files from their cameras. |
At the moment, Photopea can open only four RAW formats, which cover around 80% of the market. | |
Do you think that photopea has been a success? I use it for work everyday and I certainly think it is! | I think it is the most useful thing I made in my life so far, so it is a success :) |
Good stuff. Love a free image editor. Why is this already on the front page, with just 6 comments and 22 points? | I don't know much about the Reddit algorithm, but I think it is also about how old the post is. E.g. if you get 20 points in 5 minutes, you will be on top of a post, which received 50 points in an hour. |
What's your favourite video game? Also thank you the amount if complete trash I have cropped using photopea is immeasurable | I received my first computer when I was 13 and PC games seemed too complicated to me (and most of them were in English, which I did not know well). I never had a playstation or a gameboy. So I never played video games much. |
The first game I "understood" and truly enjoyed playing was Serious Sam :) I also spent A LOT of time playing Clash of Clans. | |
Will it stay free or is there a possibility that you're gonna put a price on that? | Photopea has been free to use since the first release seven years ago, and I would like to keep it free to use in the future, too. |
Love photopea, I use it all the time! Does anyone trouble you with any legal issues since it's basically an online photoshop? | Thanks! I think the similarity of the interface of Photoshop and Photopea (and other photo editors) is a good thing. Imagine if each brand of computers had a different layout of a keyboard, because they wanted to be "different". I am very happy, that I can simply take any keyboard and start typing on it right away. |
Maybe one time someone will come and say, that we have to make the background red, because the dark grey color is already used in their program. And we have to rename the Brush tool to "hair on a stick tool", because the Brush tool is already used in their program. But I hope such time will never come :D | |
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Please make an April 1st version with copyright-friendly tools, that would be awesome. Brush – Hair on a stick Bucket – Metal container Move – Relocate and so on. Edit: April Tools’ Day | That is a graet idea! :D |
How do you approach creating something that is intuitive? How do you know that your logic is universally understood? Are there any examples of tools, tasks, icons that you have had to change based on feedback? Thank you and great work! | The user interface of Photopea has been evolving for seven years and there were probably hundreds of suggestions from users, which I listened to and modified, to get what we have now :) |
Hi Ivan, I've used Photopea for a couple of years for basic editing. Congratulations - it's an amazing tool. The only feature that prevents me from upgrading to a paid version is the font selection interface. There are far too many fonts available, they load slowly, are all obscure and not represented well in preview. Would you consider curating/refining the available fonts? | Hi, thanks! It is completely fine to use Photopea for free, you don't have to pay for Premium :) |
You can mark some fonts with a star, and then, you can display only the "starred" fonts. You can use filters to see e.g. only "sans" fonts and hide "comic" or "handwritten" fonts. You can enable Latin-1 and other language categories, to see only fonts with many letters (only professional fonts support more than 200 letters). | |
Have you experienced any pushback/pressure from the bigger players? | No :) I have been in touch with people from Google, Adobe, Corel, Canva and other companies, evrybody was very friendly and helpful :) |
Thanks for making Photopea- I'm certainly loving it. Will there ever be an offline version? | Hi, thanks! |
A big challenge is, that Photopea can not use fonts from your computer, and it downloads fonts from our server, when you choose to use that font. So changing fonts would not work in an offline version (except of a couple of fonts we could pre-store). | |
I think the amount of time people spend using their computer offline is decreasing, and will be almost zero at some point :) | |
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If I use a font I have purchased, is it easy to implement, if you don't have that font on your server? | Hi, just press File - Open in Photopea to load a font (TTF or OTF file) :) |
Do you plan to keep photopea solely browser based? | Many people think that browser programs are slower or "less capable" than desktop programs, but it is not true in the last five years. So a "download and install" version of Photopea would not have many advantages. |
I could provide an offline version of Photopea, but at the moment, most of money come from ads, which would not work offline :/ | |
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You can try and make an Electron app, I know its essentially a browser but it would give that "native" feel to users. | Hi, you can already press More - Install Photopea in Photopea and use it as a PWA :) |
Great. Now can we please start working on a viable PDF editor that doesn't cost hundreds of dollars per year? | Photopea can already do it to some degree :) have you tried it? |
The PDF format was not meant to be edited further. But we are improving. | |
Thanks for developing Photopea. After your last AMA, I started using it. Is there a way for size of a new document to default to image dimensions on the clipboard? That's one of the handiest things in Photoshop so you don't have to either enter manually or overguess then crop down later. | The size of a new document should be set by default to the dimension of the content of the clipboard. |
But it works only in Chrome, Edge and Opera. Firefox did not implement the necessary standard yet. Don't know about Safari :/ | |
You mentioned you plan on making a video editor. Have you considered an Illustrator alternative as well? | Photopea already has many vector-related capabilities. It can open, edit and save SVG and PDF files. Somehow, I feel like a video editor would be more fun to make than an advanced vector editor. |
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Didn't know it supported editing SVGs. How does it compare to something like Inkscape? | The interface is a lot different than Inkscape. Just try it and see how it works :) |
I know this is a long shot, but any chance I can join on board with little to no knowledge so I can learn (for free of course)? 😁 It could be doing menial tasks for all I care. If not, any advice for someone like me wanting to change career path and code? I'm just tired of what I've been doing so I just recently starting some online coding courses but would like to learn more hands on if possible. Hoping to change career path for the future. | Well, if I spend time teaching you, I will have to invest less time into developing Photopea :D |
I have been often tired of what I did, I get tired of Photopea-related work from time to time. There is not just a bad job and a good job, there are many things in between. But whenever you have to choose between a simple goal and a hard goal, don't be afraid to go for a hard goal :) | |
How did you begin to scale up the workforce? What positions did you prioritise and how did the recruitment process go? I'm in an early process of starting up a web application and can see it being difficult going from working alone on a project to trusting people to share the same determination to grow it. Thanks | I do not have any team, I still work on Photopea alone. |
Hi. Great stuffs. I will definitely give it a try soon. May I give a suggestion ? I use GIMP for Image editing since I usually have to make some illustrations for my work. And GIMP provides me with the function of adding Text from another format, like LaTeX (to write math formula). Do you think this would be possible to implement in your app ? | Hi, is the LaTeX text rasterized to pixels after you insert it? Or you can modify it in GIMP? |
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the LINUX version of GIMP has a module in the Render section which allows me to type in the LaTeX code and product an image of the formula. I am not really used to the terminology of image like vector or raster image. But once the formula is produced, it is not modifiable. So if I messed up, I have to redo the process from the beginning. | We don't have such thing in Photopea at the moment. |
I used to write my masters thesis in https://www.sharelatex.com/ . You can also convert LaTeX to a PNG image here: http://latex2png.com/ (right-click the image - Copy Image, and paste it in Photopea). | |
Can it do animations? The only thing I use photoshop for at this point is it's animation ability, especially it's keyframe animations, where you can make a single frame last however many seconds you like. If it can do that, i can finally delete photoshop. | Hi, we do not have such animation capabilities as Photoshop. But there is a special mechanism for making animations from layers: https://www.photopea.com/learn/animations |
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This kind of animation capability is exactly what I was looking for. Does it allow you to view the animation as a preview before you choose EXPORT? | Of course :) Just drag-and-drop a GIF into Photopea and try to export it as a GIF, it will take you around seven seconds :) |
what was your eureka moment for photopea that whoa this is possible? | Sometimes, when I learn about a new algorithm or a method, I wonder how elegant and ingenious it is :) Like - the person who came up with it should have been really smart, I wish I was also that smart :D |
Have you considered using Patreon? Have you considered letting people subscribe for a fixed period if no ads? | Hi, we already offer a Premium account, where you pay and it hides ads for a period of time. I know about Patreon, but I feel a bit uncomfortable about accepting money for nothing in return. |
Is there a downloadable version available/in the works? | You can go to www.Photopea.com and press More - Install Photopea, to get an icon to your homescreen. |
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i tried using it on my display tablet, there doesn't seem to be any pressure sensitivity? | Hi, try to update your tablet (drivers, browser, os, etc). But it works on the latest iPad and on my old Android phone (it tracks the pressure of my finger). If it does not help, try to report it to the tablet manufacturer (as it will not work in any website, not just Photopea). |
Is there support for sprite editing tools or just tools in general for game devs? | Do you mean generating sprites, etc? It can do most of things Photoshop can do, but if you need something more, you can always suggest it here :) https://github.com/photopea/photopea/issues |
What made you decide to create a free photo editor? | It was just an experiment of analyzing PSD files in a browser. I gradually improved it. I did not want to make a photo editor during the first two years of work. But at some point, I realised - hey, it should not be that hard to make it into a photo editor. |
How is this compared to GIMP? | Hi, you can read this article: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/photoshop-alternative-no-its-not-gimp/ |
But it is about Photopea from two years ago. Photopea improved significantly since then. | |
So is it WASM or just regular old JS + WebGL? I found this looking for a browser based paint.net alternative a while back and thought it was awesome, but the controls were a bit too advanced/inaccessible for my requirements. If you're serious about growing the dev team I'm a self employed engineer if you want to hit me up. | I wrote only JS and GLSL (for GPU processing). I use three WASM libraries, which I did not make. Thanks for your offer, but I would like to hire someone I could work with in person. |
I’ve been using photopea ever since your previous AMA a year ago. My question is: how often are do you AMA and how did it impact traffic to photopea? | I did only three AMAs with about a year between them. The traffic grows by about 10 - 20%, which lasts for a day or two :) |
How much time have you invested in creating this tool? Or what's your weekly time investment? | I never measured it, but I think it is about the "regular" 40 hours a week. |
Did you know most of what you needed before starting on Photopea or did you learn as you went along with adding new features? What unexpected difficulties presented themselves while working on Photopea? | It is like I knew how to use a chisel, but I never carved a statue that big. |
I learned many practical things (state-of-art algorithms etc), I used many things I learned at the university, which I thought I will never use :) | |
How do I start contributing to Photopea? | What would you like to contribute with? You can help us find bugs or help beginners at our subreddit: www.reddit.com/photopea |
I hope this hasn't been asked, but why haven't you made a downloadable/fully offline version of your program yet? I know that as soon as you load the site you can use it offline, but there are times when people need to edit pictures without any internet connection at all. | The online version makes it much easier to release new versions and do updates. I update Photopea about 30 times a week (with minor fixes). |
Also, it feels a little uncofmortable to imagine, that someone is using a two year old version of Photopea and is cursing me because of some bug, which I already fixed, and I can not do anything about it at that moment :/ | |
What technologies did you use to build this? | I used Javascript and WebGL :) |
It's really great that you're offering an alternative to Photoshop! I was wondering, what language or software did you use to write Photopea? | I wrote my code in Javascript, but in my opinion, the language is not important at all. |
The best language is the one you know how to use. Also, for me, it is important, that there is a way to execute my code fast, which is possible with Javascript in modern browsers. | |
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Photopea.com should be in Swedish the first time you open it, if Swedish is set as your main language. | |
What's your End User Licensing Agreement looking like? How is this licensed? I like to know before end users start requesting such as im sure someone now wants to install this in a corporate environment... | Photope works in your computer and it never sends any data outside your computer. It is just like buying the cheapest calculator and using it. You don't get a licence to use such calculator, the numbers that you enter into a calculator don't leave the calculator. |
Our terms of service are here: https://www.photopea.com/privacy.html | |
What's your opinion of the current state and direction of front-end development? | I think I don't know much about it. I write my JS code in notepad and that code is precisely the code which runs in the browser of a user (without any modification). I did not change the way I develop webapps in the last six years. |
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Straight up Windows Notepad? Not notepad++ or Visual Studio Code or Atom or anything else??? | I use Notepad++ :) |
Are you planning in translating it? If so, I'd be glad to work on the italian version. | Hi, it is already translated into 40 langauges, just press More - Language - Italiano :) |
Hey Ivan, i'm very impressed by your work, but i'm an avid GIMP user. As you can imagine switching editors is always a hassle once you've got used to one. So can you give me some bullet points why it would be worth to switch from GIMP to Photopea? Thanks for the AMA! | Hi, I think you should stay with GIMP, since you already know how to use it :) And if there is nothing specific you miss in GIMP, you probably don't need such features :) |
Hey ivanhoe90 I noticed today that the pen tool behaves backward when clicking the second point and dragging. It's like the curve goes the opposite direction than anyone would expect. I almost filed a github issue on it but I just didn't have time. Is that a bug? | Oh, I am very sorry, it is fixed now. |
Hi, I wanted to know what's your story. That is your biography. And what did you study too get here? How did you get the idea for photopea? | Hi, I gave a talk about it in France a year ago :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZmaeC_Ma5A |
DUDE! Your program saved me in the final semester of my Masters. I needed to upload images and I don't have a scanner so I used my phone and fixed the colour and tones in Photopea. Bless you for your hard work. I guess my question is what kind of cheese do you like? | Thanks a lot! If you only knew how happy I am about such comments :) |
I like all cheeses, as I think they are all amazing, each one in a different way. | |
I love this software and I use it daily, Every time I think to myself "I wonder if can also do" the answer has been yes. I love showing my co-workers this software while working in Citrix, it always blows people away that this works. Question: Any change of seeing a feature that doesn't automatically export local files to the download folder? I would love to select where I want to automatically save them or just save as > location (The google drive system already amazing though) It's that one minor thing that makes me end up with File(17).png | Hi, thanks! The saving mechanism depends on the settings of the web browser. The browser usually handles the file saving the same way for all websites. So just change the browser settings - make the browser ask you about where you want the files to be saved (we can not do anything about it as a website). |
Do you think Photopea can have more active users than Photoshop? And why? | It is hard to tell. There are many features in Photoshop and other editors, which Photopea can not do. Even if Photopea has more active users, it does not mean it makes more money. |
Well I'm 9 hours late and maybe it was already asked and answered, but if you feel like responding... do you have to recreate stuff like puppet warp or quick select from scratch? Like you have to go back and read some old white paper on the algorithm, and then sort of reinvent the wheel? | Hi, that is correct, there are usually no free implementations of such algorithms, and if there are, they are not in Javascript or are not good enough :/ |
Actually, the Puppet Warp is based on a 2009 paper from Takeo Igarashi. I found a mistake in it and I wrote him an email, and it took me several emails to persuade him that he really made a mistake in his paper :) But many other authors refuse to look deep into papers they wrote a long time ago. | |
Who would you prefer Photopea being aquired by, and why? | I don't know. I am not looking for an acquisition at the moment. |
I'm getting into video editing. I'm a noob to photoshop and video editing. Are there any tools in this that can complement my video editing? I was thinking of being able to create custom graphics for the videos but what else are the capabilities? | I dont know much about video editing, but you can use Photopea for photo editing. I think the more time you spend learning a tool, before actually using it, the less time you will spend in total (e.g. doing something by "trial and error" in 3 hours vs. learning it in 1 hour and doing it in 30 minutes, because you learned how to do it). |
How were you able to acquire such a vast amount of knowledge about editors and programming? | I studied programming at the university for many years. Learning how to use Photoshop or any other editor is easier, but still can take weeks or months. |
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I'm currently studying programming at uni too. Am I correct in assuming that the vast majority of the code for photopea is JavaScript since it's a web application? | Yes, I wrote my programs in Javascript :) But I did not have any Javascript class ever in my life. I think the programming skills are not related to the knowledge of a specific programming language. |
Could you comment on https://github.com/photopea/JS-guide a bit? I don't quite understand why you're against using syntactic sugar. Especially let, const, and strict equality. I'm not claiming to be an expert at all, but most of these guidelines are in opposition to modern day JS practices. So I was just curious if you could elaborate on your decision making! | I think it is up to you what you write. But I am used to writing as "simple" code as possible, and it just looks cleaner to me if you use "var" instead of let/const (and it has no impact on the speed). |
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Hey, I don't know if this has been asked before but since you have mentioned that Photopea can run offline after it's been loaded (meaning that there is no server backend), have you ever considered packing the app into a desktop app (e.g. with Electron or nw.js)? | Hi, I think opening a website is faster and more comfortable than downloading and installing something. Also, the electron version would be hard to update (unless it is just an iframe with Photopea inside it). |
Have you ever considered making Photopea into a mobile app? | Hi, half of our users use Photopea on phones. It works quite well. If you look for "photopea" on Youtube, most of videos are recorded on phones. |
My Reddit client doesn’t have a comment search feature, but have you considered bundling an electron version for people to download? Seems like a quick win, and even gets around ad blockers. Or if it’s a premium only offering, is just icing on the cake | Hi, I was a bit lazy to maintain a separate version of Photopea. I don't see any advantages it would have over the basic version. |
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